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September 18, 2007

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Thanks Mark, that was a really interesting overview - sounds like a healthy governance structure. Is the church's constitution available online? (I had a quick google for it and only found a mention of it).

Mark, delighted to come across your post here. I recently helped a church install a Policy Governance structure. It solved several problems very well.

I wonder how you have structured the linkage between governance and operations. Does the Pastor take the role of CEO? Who or what is held accountable for production of ends and avoidance of unacceptable means?

I hope you post on this topic again. I'd like to read about how things progress, how challenges are met and how policy helps improve governance.

Peace and Blessing, Glen

Hi Glen. Yes, essentially the Senior Minister is much like a CEO in an organisation. However, in our environment, being a large church, the Senior Minister has a staff team that helps them with the operational, financial and administrative tasks. However, ultimately the Senior Minister is responsible. Hope that helps. Mark

Excellent, thanks. Are you "ends" policies published somewhere online? I could share the ones we did if you'd like to see it.

Our constitution is not available online but we are willing to share a copy with those who request it.

Our policy governance manual was based on some samples from the John carver and Aubrey Malphurs materials (see recommended resources list), which we fine-tuned to fit our environment.

Our 'ends' policies include our Mission Statement, Core Values, and Vision 2010 statement. These are all available on our church web site.

Mark

Thanks for posting your insights here Mark. Just wondering why you decided to combine the functions of Eldership and the Board? We are a church of 550ish and are contemplating a move in the opposite direction i.e. seperating the two roles of spiritual and pastoral oversight (Elders) and governance (Board). Would appreciate your thoughts...

Cheers

Graham

Hi Mark,

I am intrested in how you managed to come up with a Governance Manual that has a balance of empowerement for the pastor but keeping a clear line of accountability - do you take your Consititution statments and base a foundation from their?

Regards Grant

Hey Grant. Good to hear from you.

The Aubrey Malphurs book has the best relevant stuff on that. Worth a read.

We have a young church with 400 to 500 weekly attenders and we would benefit greatly from a policy such as the one implemented at citylife church. Would you be kind enought to provide a copy? God bless.

Hi Rob. I tried to send you something via the email you gave, but it bounced back for some reason.

Mark, Thanks for your insight. Our church needs to redefine its structure. Even we are Board led, we were operating as one Person (The Senior Pastor) being close to the allmighty. We have some bylaws and articles of incorporation that have not been aplied properly. Even we dont have "formal" membership, our sunday attendace is in the 1,200 on four services. We would like to redefine our governace and policies. Would you mind sharing yours?
God bless...

Hi Jonas

We adapted ours from the book mentioned above, 'Leading Leaders', so I suggest you get a hold of that, as it is an excellent resource.

Thanks

hi mark, your article on pattern of church leadership answer some of our basic questions. We are a 500 visitor per week church, in Jakarta, Indonesia. We have completed our 5 years strategic plan. It is a 200 pages power point doc. We are interested to learn the governance that lead to strong and healthy church. May possibly request you to send the mentioned constitution doc so we may learn from it. yours. bdewandaru.

We are a multi-site growing church which adds another twist. We need to delegate the board's oversight to site leadership teams and reserve the board's influence to finances and accountability. I would appreciate a copy of your constitution for comparison. Thanks.

Most churches have a membership of 100 or less. What kind of governance do you think is best for a small church?

As simple as and informal as possible, Ervin. Unless you own land and buildings and/or employ staff, no legal constitution is really needed.

Hi Mark - Truly impressed with your understanding and practical experience on church governance after reading your article. Our church of about 300+ has been operating the last 5 years with a constitution that addresses this area poorly. Need guidance on how to improve the governance structure to allow Pastoral freedom at the same time be protected with solid Board accountability. Would be most grateful to see a copy of your constitution and learn from your experience.

Many thanks!

David

Hi Mark, I am based in the UK and trying to find examples of Policy Governance manuals from churches. Would it be possible to see your church's at all.
You can e-mail me at [email protected]
MAny thanks.
Chris Hollies

Hi Mark - I thank God for your attempts to solve this problem of "Church Governance".
For me the issue is simple, it is a matter of who is to lead and who is to follow.

However, the issue of misuse of power has prompted the need for such a phrase in the church, the body of Christ.
Your attempts are remarkable, but lack one focus point. The first step in governance is alligning the church with its nature, that it is NOT an organisation but an ORGANISM.

All efforts including yours will suffer from the premise from which they all efforts are found.

It is clear that the issue of Governance is bone out of the outcry, by circular governments and certain corporate leaders, who having run big business have understood the value of proper governance.

However, this issue did not exist in the body of Christ and including the era of priesthood. The issue of governance only applied to specific projects of the church not to the church in its formation.

The question exists today, What is a church? is it an organisation or an Organism?

When we answer this question diligently, we will find a solution to our problem and challenge.

I would like to hear more from you.

Blessed regards,
Wellington Mkhize- South Africa

Thanks a Million Mark. I am a masters student and would like to research on church governance in general. Do you have any Text books that you may recommend for my literature review.

Best regards,

Aaron

Hi Mark,

Thank you for writing this article. Even though it's dated almost 5 years ago, it's still relevant today.

Our team is working on a new church plant, and I'm trying to get as many resources assimilated for governance, articles of faith, and mission statements. I just bought a copy of the Leading Leaders book by Aubrey Malphurs that you recommended. When you get a chance, please send me a copy of your Policy Governance Manual; it would be a tremendous benefit in starting this church. Thank you.

Best,
Bryce

Mark
I am a member of a congregational church in Connecticut that is in the painful process of rebuilding after 16 years of having a minister who thought he was a CEO. He wasn't a very good CEO in spite of all his efforts and those efforts demanded so much of him that he wasn't a particularly effective minister. He resigned rather than face the mess his"leadership had created aWe are currently trying to deal with a significantly diminished membership, depleted endowments, and a significant debt load.
The last time I checked, the seminaries were not turning out too many MBA. They do not seem to be turning out too many servant leaders either.

Hi Eugene

So sorry to hear about your situation. Poor leaders can do a lot of damage in any community. I pray for wisdom, grace and courage from God for you and the congregation as you navigate this difficult time.

Hi Aaron.

The books listed in this article would all be good value for your literature review work.

Thanks

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